New Update system for PA 2010 11.70 - discussion thread

[spwolf]

More info here:
http://www.powerarchiver.com/blog/2010/01/14/upcoming-pa-2010-11-7-brand-new-update-system/

As our connection between forum users and blogs is not working right now, you can comment here ;-)

[drteeth]

I’m more intrigued by the ‘Super Secret App’. You should not have even mentioned that, LOL.

We’re a curious lot here and I’d take some pills for your headache…which is yet to come!

Regards

DrT

[spwolf]

but the updates will be 3x smaller!

[spwolf]

;-)

[drteeth]

@spwolf:

but the updates will be 3x smaller!

…but the updates for what exactly, apart from PA of course;)

Couldn’t resisit.

Cheers

DrT

[spwolf]

PAOP and PAVD of course ;-)

[yoniy0]

Guys I think it’s great. One more thing - every time I make an update I have to manually end my explorer.exe process (if I don’t, it will think for a long time and then ask me to do so) and then reinitiate it.
Are you benchmarking on Vista/win7 with UAC activated?

[spwolf]

@yoniy0:

Guys I think it’s great. One more thing - every time I make an update I have to manually end my explorer.exe process (if I don’t, it will think for a long time and then ask me to do so) and then reinitiate it.
Are you benchmarking on Vista/win7 with UAC activated?

Yeah, it took 65 sec on Win7 w/ UAC, with clicking on dialogue boxes instantly, on very fast computer with 4 Mbs connection… we will see how it goes with new update system ;-).

As to the explorer.exe, thats feature of Windows Restart Manager, something is wrong with yours then… definetly not an perfect Windows feature but it is better than what we had before (which was nothing). Not sure how will this be influencing it, as we will be accessing restart manager directly, instead of through Windows Installer.

[RJWaring]

This will make life allot easier! maybe we could have background update… where if selected by the user PowerArchiver updates to the latest Beta or Full release and installs in the background ready for the next restart.

[spwolf]

@Sir:

This will make life allot easier! maybe we could have background update… where if selected by the user PowerArchiver updates to the latest Beta or Full release and installs in the background ready for the next restart.

well this should take seconds ;-).

[TBGBe]

@blog:

It took around 65 seconds until PowerArchiver 2010 11.60 was installed and running again (upgrade from PA 2007)

So, who was still running PA 2007 :eek:

Incremental update - Yes
Parallel/One-Step update - Yes

No mention of update option for shell menu (yet) :p

P.S. would this also update for “patches” like
http://www.powerarchiver.com/blog/2009/12/17/new-7zip-sfx-for-those-who-need-it/

[guido]

I don’t like the yellow line under the the news :-)

[spwolf]

@TBGBe:

So, who was still running PA 2007 :eek:

Incremental update - Yes
Parallel/One-Step update - Yes

No mention of update option for shell menu (yet) :p

P.S. would this also update for “patches” like
http://www.powerarchiver.com/blog/2009/12/17/new-7zip-sfx-for-those-who-need-it/

everything gets updated, there should be no reason to download full installer again….

[RJWaring]

@spwolf:

everything gets updated, there should be no reason to download full installer again….

Spwolf! I think many PA Users me included want to give you a big hug rite now!:D

[spwolf]

@spwolf:

everything gets updated, there should be no reason to download full installer again….

including all current and future PA related products ;-).

[Luxor]

@spwolf:

everything gets updated, there should be no reason to download full installer again….

Excellent, I like it when a program does that. I like the web update GUI too, great idea. You are spoiling us. :)

@Sir:

Spwolf! I think many PA Users me included want to give you a big hug rite now!:D

Whoa! steady on there Sir Richard :eek:

[RJWaring]

@Luxor:

Whoa! steady on there Sir Richard :eek:

Sorry Luxor, I get over excited sometimes :D

[moles42]

I’ll maybe start to get excited when I get to test this baby!…:)

[drteeth]

@yoniy0:

Guys I think it’s great. One more thing - every time I make an update I have to manually end my explorer.exe process (if I don’t, it will think for a long time and then ask me to do so) and then reinitiate it.
Are you benchmarking on Vista/win7 with UAC activated?

I have this one too and not just on one system or OS either (all my PCs are multibooting).

DrT

[spwolf]

@drteeth:

I have this one too and not just on one system or OS either (all my PCs are multibooting).

DrT

Windows Restart Manager is Vista/Win7 feature, thats only where you can have it ;-).

[drteeth]

So that’s where I have it:). I was deliberately vague and did not specify the OS ;).

It’s quite common and explorer.exe always automatically restarts. Mildly inconvenient at most.

DrT

[spwolf]

@drteeth:

So that’s where I have it:). I was deliberately vague and did not specify the OS ;).

It’s quite common and explorer.exe always automatically restarts. Mildly inconvenient at most.

DrT

you mean the slowness is common or restart is common? I believe Explorer gets prevented by some apps to do proper restart, I had that problem with Win7 RC’s, but is gone now (i also have less apps installed).

But the whole point is that when some installation needs to replace file which is in use by system, unlike before, it shuts down that application first, install new software, and restarts it (in this case Explorer)… in XP and before, you had to restart your computer which was rather inconvinient ;-)

[drteeth]

Sorry for not explaining properly,

It is quite common for the PA install/upgrade to have to close down explorer.exe. Explorer always starts again automatically and the whole business is a minor inconvenience so I’ve never bothered reporting it.

Regards

DrT

[spwolf]

@drteeth:

Sorry for not explaining properly,

It is quite common for the PA install/upgrade to have to close down explorer.exe. Explorer always starts again automatically and the whole business is a minor inconvenience so I’ve never bothered reporting it.

Regards

DrT

yes, thats the way Windows Restart Manager works ;-). There is no other way to replace system files (such as pa shell extensions dlls) than to close explorer, replace them and restart it. Windows Restart Manager is new feature of Vista/Win7 that Windows Installer (MSI) uses and is mandatory.

Previously, you had to either manually do that, or restart your computer.

[drteeth]

Thanks

DrT

[spwolf]

timings looking good so far ;-)

[angibl]

@drteeth:

I have this one too and not just on one system or OS either (all my PCs are multibooting).

DrT

Same here

[wulffra]

All good news about v 12 but is there a list of goodies (ex wishlist) that will be available in the new version ?

[spwolf]

@wulffra:

All good news about v 12 but is there a list of goodies (ex wishlist) that will be available in the new version ?

not yet…. some things are done, some are not.

there is time to create wishlists still too, so if you have anything in mind, write it up ;-)

[wulffra]

a) Add Compress and Encrypt to selfextracting file (.exe) to context menu (now only pae), or allow this to be changed in he setup.
see: http://www.powerarchiver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3537&highlight=context

b) Option: Delete .rars after successfull extraction

thanks

[spwolf]

@wulffra:

a) Add Compress and Encrypt to selfextracting file (.exe) to context menu (now only pae), or allow this to be changed in he setup.
see: http://www.powerarchiver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3537&highlight=context

b) Option: Delete .rars after successfull extraction

thanks

just update those threads, or create new ones… posting multiple wishes, in unrelated thread is a no no. :o