What do you think of Vista?
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Under the hood its just a windows update like windows 98 was to windows 95.
This is the thing why you have to get vista.
2000 = windows version 5.0
XP = windows version 5.1
Vista = windows 6Vista is not an update of XP. It is a new version.
The reason for me to get vista is for the stuff under the hood. Almost everything under the hood is rewritten. Extended file system. A new driver model, so drivers cannot make Vista crash. Able to run widows as a limited user. No more kernel patching for stability. These are just a fragment of what has changed.
Guido
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there are still going to be crashes and lock ups it happens with any computer more memory is going to be needed and less compatability with existing software. Basically i can see your point. But i can also see the point from developers will it or wont it let us do things.
Is going to be as good as it sayes. they said windows xp was good and going to change the way we work. It didn’t . Your still going to need new drivers to run old componenets and this will take time.
Will it be more stable i don’t think so. on any computer if you install software that uses the same parts at the same time will crash the system its a fact.
In time we will see if it is any better.
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Hi folks,
I’m new to the forum and thought I would comment.
Windows Vista will not allow kernel manipulation. So all the money you have invested in security software that uses this will not work with Vista.
I can’t imagine that consumers will like forking out this kind of money and not be able to use their choice of security software. So therefore, you really don’t own the computer with that OS, Bill Gates does. Microsoft wants you to rely soley on his security software only to protect that computer.
I can see a lot of refunds being made when people purchase Vista and get it home and find out they can’t use their own choice of security.
This whole Vista thing is very dissappointing to me. Gates has all the security vendors in an uproar over this.
I’m running XP Pro and have multiple image backups. I will run it even after it’s not supported anymore because I refuse to be told what software I can use on my own computer. I’m wondering how much longer he will support XP in order to force people to Vista.
I have been looking at alternatives for when this time comes. By then I will have figured out what I’m going too and it won’t be windows unless there is a major change in Vista, but I doubt that.
Are we allowed to post links? I have some very interesting material on Vista that I think everyone should be aware of. Awarness is always better than getting short changed.
Regards,
Rilla927
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post your links.
microsoft basically wnat us to upgrade to just their software.
Then basically is this fair trade, or health competition? No
It basiaclly means hackers and virus makers will have a feild day as microsoft will not be able to keep up with them. It is possible to remotley disable vista from another computer via the internet without being logged into that computer. Tried it and if i can do it a proper hacker can.
Basically windows 2000 and xp are better cause they allow computer security compies to be able to write software for these computers and keep them ahead of the hackers. if you look at firefox it is better than internet explorer.
I have also been informed via a microsoft employee that eventually only special licenes will be issued to companies and if that license is not granted their software will noit run on microsoft windows.
This i’m told will stop virus getting onto the system.
It’ll mean microsoft force us to use their products and what incentive will microsft have to keep their product updated none cause no competition.
The future is either linusx or winodows xp or 2000
it is possible for other companies to do the security fixes for these systems and keep them alive long after microsft has abandoned them.
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microsoft basically wnat us to upgrade to just their software.
You are absolutely right!
It basiaclly means hackers and virus makers will have a feild day as microsoft will not be able to keep up with them. It is possible to remotley disable vista from another computer via the internet without being logged into that computer. Tried it and if i can do it a proper hacker can.
I believe it. And Gates wants us to trust is software only, he’s out of his mind.
Basically windows 2000 and xp are better cause they allow computer security compies to be able to write software for these computers and keep them ahead of the hackers. if you look at firefox it is better than internet explorer.
I agree 110%.
This i’m told will stop virus getting onto the system.
This is not going to stop virus’s. He is opening up an epidemic of computers to be virus laden. This is going to blow up in his face.
It’ll mean microsoft force us to use their products and what incentive will microsft have to keep their product updated none cause no competition.
I agree! I don’t have that kind of trust to put into Microsoft to protect my OS. To this day he hasn’t been able to do it.
The future is either linusx or winodows xp or 2000
I have been looking at some Linux stuff myself. I think there is going to be an astronomical amount of people switching eventually, because of this.
it is possible for other companies to do the security fixes for these systems and keep them alive long after microsft has abandoned them.
Yes, you are right. I’m going to gather those links and post back. Wait until you read some of this. I almost spit my teeth out, laughing.
Take care,
Rilla927
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Here ya go.
http://wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=143678
http://www.softsphere.com/articles/boycott-microsoft-windows-vista/
http://www.agnitum.com/news/kernel_patch_protection.php
http://wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=143245
http://wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=142074
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1999241,00.asp
Rilla927
P.S - Links fixed
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p.s. new 3600 build is rocking, isnt it?
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where do I go to check my private messages?
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I don’t know about switching to Linux, but I see people not upgrading to Vista until they buy a new computer. I have four computers with XP and my folks have one with XP. I can’t find a need to upgrade any of them to Vista. Maybe I’m missing something, but all the computers we have does everything my wife, daughter, and myself need them to do. My folks computer does everything they need it to do. We have AV and firewall software installed on each. Also using a router with SPI. So far, none of the computers have had a virus. I spent a few minutes educating everyone about opening e-mail attachments and about phishing attacks. XP is very stable for us, no blue screens. XP runs all the software that we want it to run. My machine plays all the games I want. I just don’t see a need to upgrade. I keep reading articles about how Vista will improve security, but so far we have been safe with XP. Why should I switch to anything else (Vista or Linux)?
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If I have a Volkswagen that works, that doesn’t mean I don’t want to drive a Ferrari.
I have been using vista for 1 day and I think it’s great.
Guido
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I just don’t see a Ferria’s worth of new features. It looks more like an Ford Explorer (XP) and Ford Excursion (Vista). Both are SUVs. One may tow a little more, but not enough to justify the upgrade.
Trust me, I’m looking for a good reason to buy Vista when it comes out, but I have to get the approval from the boss (wife) and right now I can’t find a good reason yet.
I’ll keep reading and watching.
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there is one majpr flaw with vista at the moment. One minutes software runs on it next it doesn’t.
untill they actually come out with a standard vista that can run software all the time not just when microsoft wants it then i’m not buying it.
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RC2 is pretty nice actually… works much better than previous builds…
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I am waiting for a few important (PA & Alcohol) pieces of software to work on Vista.
After that it’s Vista only for me. I think it works great.
Guido
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I have used both vista and XP. Hands down I find vista to be a more capable OS. Still new it may have a hickup from time to time but the updates usually resolve this. More options, more customizability, more security and it is really really pretty.
I decided to write this post after watching “i’m a mac, I’m a PC” commercial. I feel this gives a horrible unrealistic view of vista. Before judging vista, try it! If you still don’t enjoy the environment perhaps a mac is more your thing.
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dont b in dilemma:eek:
if u lik XP then go along wit it, dont think abt viasta…:p
if u loves vista then install it…
i think both are equall expect some features…
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If vista was any good why are they developing windows 7 cause its like windows 95 and 98 windows 95 was revolutionary but it had loads of bugs not ironed out. Windows 98 was windows 95 with the bugs fixed. Goes to show that windows 2000 went to xp and from xp to a new operating system structure vista now vista is buggy so they are sorting the bugs and going to windows 7
windows 7 is actually vista bug fix which microsoft want to charge us for.
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As a simple user i can say that Vista is very quick system but it need a lot of free place on pc that not everybody can provide
My wallpapers are more cooler, doubts?