PowerArchiver 2011 Toolbox with BitDefender!

Keith Weisshar · Mar 8, 2011, 7:54 PM

I just upgraded to PowerArchiver 2011 Toolbox from my account? Why does the About PowerArchiver box show PowerArchiver 2011 Toolbox Edition Business instead of PowerArchiver 2011 Toolbox Edition Personal? Previously I had PowerArchiver 2011 Professional Personal with my Pro Legacy key. Is there a way fix this issue?

Danger.S · Mar 8, 2011, 9:10 PM

I also just upraded to PA2011 Toolbox and the about box says “… Toolbox Edition Personal…”, so no problem for me after upgrading.

Btw. the download links for the Toolbox upgrades provided in “my account” do not work, I get a “The page you requested was not found” error.
I think to URL is wrong, with adding a “1” after RC the URL works.

TBGBe · Mar 8, 2011, 9:18 PM

You’re correct.

As an alternate, you could just use the link on Power Archiver download page.

Keith Weisshar · Mar 8, 2011, 9:21 PM

Spywolf, why is the about box showing “… ToolBox Edition Business …” instead of “… Toolbox Edition Personal …” even though I purchased a single user pack upgrade for home use on my own PC.

Linkster · Mar 8, 2011, 9:49 PM

is a 5-pack toolbox upgrade the most you are doing? Seems weird to have to buy 3 5-packs instead of just a single 15 user license. I certainly don’t want 15 different codes. How are you handling your volume pro users on the toolbox upgrade?

Keith Weisshar · Mar 8, 2011, 10:00 PM

I only purchased one single-pack upgrade with the quantity set to one in the cart and received one registration code but the about box still shows business, not personal. I did not install BitDefender since I already have Microsoft Security Essentials and having two or more antivirus programs can cause conflicts.

spwolf · Mar 8, 2011, 10:12 PM

@Keith:

I just upgraded to PowerArchiver 2011 Toolbox from my account? Why does the About PowerArchiver box show PowerArchiver 2011 Toolbox Edition Business instead of PowerArchiver 2011 Toolbox Edition Personal? Previously I had PowerArchiver 2011 Professional Personal with my Pro Legacy key. Is there a way fix this issue?

Hi Keith,

thanks for upgrading… No need to overthink it as Toolbox does not have Personal/Business versions, just single version (it is not meant for companies). We will adjust the text in RC2.

thanks!

spwolf · Mar 8, 2011, 10:14 PM

@Linkster:

is a 5-pack toolbox upgrade the most you are doing? Seems weird to have to buy 3 5-packs instead of just a single 15 user license. I certainly don’t want 15 different codes. How are you handling your volume pro users on the toolbox upgrade?

There will be 10 pack as well for Toolbox users, this is due to how AV licensing works.

spwolf · Mar 8, 2011, 10:20 PM

@Danger.S:

I also just upraded to PA2011 Toolbox and the about box says “… Toolbox Edition Personal…”, so no problem for me after upgrading.

Btw. the download links for the Toolbox upgrades provided in “my account” do not work, I get a “The page you requested was not found” error.
I think to URL is wrong, with adding a “1” after RC the URL works.

fixed that now, thanks…

PBMCMLXXI · Mar 8, 2011, 10:42 PM

The toolbox edition sounds interesting.

Is there a download link to a ‘trial’ version avail?
Also if purchased are you given a direct download link as I don’t see one currently on the accounts or download page.

Thanks.

TBGBe · Mar 9, 2011, 4:35 AM

<puts on=“” scottish=“” accent=“”>
There can be only one download!

It’s the license code that determines the flavour.
So the Release Candidate link on the “normal” download page is the trial version, if you want to think of it like that.</puts>

mwb1100 · Mar 8, 2011, 11:25 PM

When going to upgrade to Toobox, the page that summarizes what’s in the cart has this wording:

Personal/Small Business License - Free lifetime upgrades, applied automatically to all orders of 5 or less licenses. Applicable to home or small business users with license totals of 5 or less.

I think it should be made clear that this doesn’t apply to the BitDefender portion (I assume that BitDefender will require an annual fee).

The same should go on http://www.powerarchiver.com/order/ when PA 2011 gets past RC stage, of course.

spwolf · Mar 9, 2011, 12:02 AM

@pjb:

The toolbox edition sounds interesting.

Is there a download link to a ‘trial’ version avail?
Also if purchased are you given a direct download link as I don’t see one currently on the accounts or download page.

Thanks.

links come in the registration email you get… We have English and German BitDefender IS 2011.

spwolf · Mar 9, 2011, 12:03 AM

@mwb1100:

When going to upgrade to Toobox, the page that summarizes what’s in the cart has this wording:

I think it should be made clear that this doesn’t apply to the BitDefender portion (I assume that BitDefender will require an annual fee).

The same should go on http://www.powerarchiver.com/order/ when PA 2011 gets past RC stage, of course.

thanks for the reminder!

PBMCMLXXI · Mar 9, 2011, 4:35 AM

@TBGBe:

<puts on=“” scottish=“” accent=“”>
There can be only one download!

It’s the license code that determines the flavour.
So the Release Candidate link on the “normal” download page is the trial version, if you want to think of it like that.</puts>

Hi, I was thinking more of the BitDefender portion, as I don’t think that is not included in the download page, within the 9,164 KB file.

I know that the file on the downloads page goes between Standard and Pro. I have now tested it on my tst pc without a Serial Number thus in Trial mode, it gives all the features of the pro version but noting to do with the BitDefender portion of Toolbox.

To therefore test BitDefender is it a case of going to the BitDefender site downloading the trial of internet security from there, and then if liking it and wanting to go down the powerarchiver toolbox route, (thereafter purchase of toolbox) entering in the licence code for PowerArchiver Toolbox into that trial of BitDefender?

Don’t get me wrong I see where the integration seems to be going but I don’t see the BitDefender aspects currently intregarated with the product, such as they are with for Example: Acronis Backup & Security http://www.acronis.co.uk/homecomputing/products/backup-security/ Which integrates BitDefender directly within the product, and one single download.

Not having a dig etc, just seeking some clarification as the how it integrates with PowerArchiver 2011 or if it (BitDefender) in it’s entirety is a standalone application non intregarated into PowerArchiver 2011 of which the PowerArchiver Toolbox Licence Code actives BitDefender.

Any clarification greatly appreciated. Thanks. :)

Luxor · Mar 9, 2011, 11:33 AM

@spwolf:

we will be sending upgrade offers via email tomorrow so you will see the pricing.

Have the emails been sent yet?
If so I’ve not received one. I even looked in my spam folder in case it had been mistakenly flagged as spam and it’s not there either. :(

moles42 · Mar 9, 2011, 1:00 PM

haven’t seen spwolf around for several hours ‘Lux’…nothing in my email all day but I expect it there when I surface tomorrow…:)

TBGBe · Mar 9, 2011, 12:50 PM

@pjb:

Hi, I was thinking more of the BitDefender portion, as I don’t think that is not included in the download page, within the 9,164 KB file.

I know that the file on the downloads page goes between Standard and Pro. I have now tested it on my tst pc without a Serial Number thus in Trial mode, it gives all the features of the pro version but noting to do with the BitDefender portion of Toolbox.

To therefore test BitDefender is it a case of going to the BitDefender site downloading the trial of internet security from there, and then if liking it and wanting to go down the powerarchiver toolbox route, (thereafter purchase of toolbox) entering in the licence code for PowerArchiver Toolbox into that trial of BitDefender?

Don’t get me wrong I see where the integration seems to be going but I don’t see the BitDefender aspects currently intregarated with the product, such as they are with for Example: Acronis Backup & Security http://www.acronis.co.uk/homecomputing/products/backup-security/ Which integrates BitDefender directly within the product, and one single download.

Not having a dig etc, just seeking some clarification as the how it integrates with PowerArchiver 2011 or if it (BitDefender) in it’s entirety is a standalone application non intregarated into PowerArchiver 2011 of which the PowerArchiver Toolbox Licence Code actives BitDefender.

Any clarification greatly appreciated. Thanks. :)

OK. Yes, they are separate products.
To trial PowerArchiver, download from this site (as you have done).
To trial Bitdefender, as you say, you can download from their site - the 2011 Internet Security version.

When/if you’re happy, then purchase the appropriate PowerArchiver license.

If you go for the Toolbox (including Bitdefender) then
@spwolf:

links come in the registration email you get… We have English and German BitDefender IS 2011.

So I guess you would have to unistall the trail of Bitdefender and use the provided link to install the licensed version.

PBMCMLXXI · Mar 9, 2011, 3:20 PM

@ TBGBe, Thanks for the clarification, that is as I expected. I did try bitdefender when beta testing one of the acronis products, as that was bundled with it. I have now downloaded bitdefender on my test machine to see how it fares :) Thanks.

Luxor · Mar 9, 2011, 1:00 PM

@moles42:

haven’t seen spwolf around for several hours ‘Lux’…nothing in my email all day but I expect it there when I surface tomorrow…:)

Ah not just me then. Phew! :D

@TBGBe:

<puts on=“” scottish=“” accent=“”>
There can be only one download!</puts>

That has got to be the worst Scottish accent I have ever read. :p

TBGBe · Mar 9, 2011, 1:03 PM

<scouse accent=“”>
No 'mail 'ere neither.

Better?</scouse>

Luxor · Mar 9, 2011, 1:14 PM

@TBGBe:

<scouse accent=“”>
No 'mail 'ere neither.

Better?</scouse>

Very lifelike :D

moles42 · Mar 9, 2011, 1:21 PM

I’m not convinced….sounds ‘welsh’ to me :D

TBGBe · Mar 9, 2011, 1:24 PM

Maybe because you’re an Aussie??

moles42 · Mar 9, 2011, 1:25 PM

lol…I’m not though Terry…I’m from the UK…:)

Danger.S · Mar 9, 2011, 2:03 PM

@Luxor @Moles42 @TBGBe

I didn’t receive an Email either, but you can log into “My Account” and you will have the upgrade options and the prices there (including discounts, of cause).

@Spwolf

Is the Bitdefender version downloaded with the PA-downloader any different from the BitDefender downloaded directly at their site?

spwolf · Mar 9, 2011, 3:18 PM

@Danger.S:

@Luxor @Moles42 @TBGBe

I didn’t receive an Email either, but you can log into “My Account” and you will have the upgrade options and the prices there (including discounts, of cause).

@Spwolf

Is the Bitdefender version downloaded with the PA-downloader any different from the BitDefender downloaded directly at their site?

It is version customized for us, so it is different to that extent (it shows our support info and downloads updates from our servers).

spwolf · Mar 9, 2011, 3:20 PM

@pjb:

@ TBGBe, Thanks for the clarification, that is as I expected. I did try bitdefender when beta testing one of the acronis products, as that was bundled with it. I have now downloaded bitdefender on my test machine to see how it fares :) Thanks.

we didnt want to make PowerArchiver 300 MB download :-).

Also, our version is one from few weeks ago, they had rather large update.

TBGBe · Mar 9, 2011, 5:37 PM

@Danger.S:

@Luxor @Moles42 @TBGBe

I didn’t receive an Email either, but you can log into “My Account” and you will have the upgrade options and the prices there (including discounts, of cause).

Thanks, but we all know.

Just “playing” with spwolf, as he said there would be emails.
:rolleyes:

TBGBe · Mar 9, 2011, 5:45 PM

@moles42:

lol…I’m not though Terry…I’m from the UK…:)

Sorry, didn’t realise you’d been deported. :p

Luxor · Mar 9, 2011, 6:09 PM

@TBGBe:

Thanks, but we all know.

Just “playing” with spwolf, as he said there would be emails.
:rolleyes:

Oh I dunno about that.
I was promised an email and I’m feeling very neglected not getting one. :p

Luxor · Mar 9, 2011, 6:21 PM

spwolf I have a question.
When I go to my account and click on PowerArchiver Toolbox International - 1 license pack w/ BitDefender then click on upgrade, it shows quantity 2. I know I can change it to 1 but I’m curious why it defaults to 2.

spwolf · Mar 9, 2011, 6:24 PM

@Luxor:

spwolf I have a question.
When I go to my account and click on PowerArchiver Toolbox International - 1 license pack w/ BitDefender then click on upgrade, it shows quantity 2. I know I can change it to 1 but I’m curious why it defaults to 2.

you probably had 2 orders previously which can be upgraded to Toolbox?

Luxor · Mar 9, 2011, 6:34 PM

@spwolf:

you probably had 2 orders previously which can be upgraded to Toolbox?

That makes sense, that’s what it will be.
PA2001 & PA2009 are my purchased licenses so that would account for that.

TBGBe · Mar 9, 2011, 6:36 PM

@Luxor:

Oh I dunno about that.
I was promised an email and I’m feeling very neglected not getting one. :p

Me too. :(

spwolf · Mar 9, 2011, 6:36 PM

@Luxor:

That makes sense, that’s what it will be.
PA2001 & PA2009 are my purchased licenses so that would account for that.

i love the fact that most of the forum users here have purchased PA 2001 loooong time ago :-)

edit: and are still using PA! 10 years coming up very soon!

Luxor · Mar 9, 2011, 7:05 PM

@spwolf:

i love the fact that most of the forum users here have purchased PA 2001 loooong time ago :-)

edit: and are still using PA! 10 years coming up very soon!

I was using the free version before then. :)
When would that be? 1998/99

spwolf · Mar 9, 2011, 7:12 PM

@Luxor:

I was using the free version before then. :)
When would that be? 1998/99

Started development in 1998, first release in 1999 and commercial release in April 2001.

Luxor · Mar 9, 2011, 7:15 PM

@spwolf:

Started development in 1998, first release in 1999 and commercial release in April 2001.

1999 it would be then. :)

Keith Weisshar · Mar 9, 2011, 8:40 PM

Why can’t new customers purchase the Toolbox edition from the Buy Now link on the website at the price shown on the nag screen?

TBGBe · Mar 9, 2011, 8:44 PM

Possibly because it is (still) a Release Candidate?

Those links are still PA2010

Keith Weisshar · Mar 9, 2011, 9:09 PM

Do you plan to make BitDefender optional in PowerArchiver 2011 Toolbox once PowerArchiver 2011 is officially released due to the annual cost of the third party BitDefender subscription license?

TBGBe · Mar 9, 2011, 10:46 PM

Not quite sure what you are asking. If you are asking for “cheaper” Toolbox without Bitdefender, then that is not available.

If not that, I think you should reread the initial post/blog from spwolf.

My understanding is:-

If you want Toolbox, then Bitdefender License is included. It is an option so:
a) If you don’t want Bitdefender, you don’t have to install it.
b) You can use Bitdefender for 1 year and then decide not to re-license - updates are included.
c) If you like it, then relicensing is with Bitdefender not PA.

If you feel Bitdefender is “not worth it” (for any reason) and also that also Toolbox is “not worth it” without Bitdefender, then you can take the PowerArchiver Pro route.

Remember, this only applies to new customers, if you already have PowerArchiver 2010 Pro, then you get the update to PowerArchiver as normal (now called Pro Legacy) - without Bitdefender.

spwolf · Mar 9, 2011, 11:25 PM

terry right, although you can renew toolbox with us to get the bitdefender, not with BD directly.

TBGBe · Mar 9, 2011, 11:28 PM

@spwolf:

terry right, although you can renew toolbox with us to get the bitdefender, not with BD directly.

So Toolbox will need renewing :confused:

spwolf · Mar 9, 2011, 11:33 PM

@TBGBe:

So Toolbox will need renewing :confused:

if you want yearly license for BD, yes… if not, then not.

Keith Weisshar · Mar 9, 2011, 11:54 PM

Will there be an automatic renewal option for the BD component in the account that will rebill the credit card annually? Most AV vendors auto-renew the subscription to avoid service interruption.

spwolf · Mar 10, 2011, 12:00 AM

@Keith:

Will there be an automatic renewal option for the BD component in the account that will rebill the credit card annually? Most AV vendors auto-renew the subscription to avoid service interruption.

i am not sure yet, but if there was, there will also certainly be an notice few days ahead in the email.

Keith Weisshar · Mar 10, 2011, 12:01 AM

Why does the nag screen in PowerArchiver 2011 trial mode show $149.95 MSRP for Toolbox along with the current sale price of $49.95.

spwolf · Mar 10, 2011, 12:03 AM

it is “value of” vs the actual price.

Keith Weisshar · Mar 10, 2011, 12:44 AM

Is the PowerArchiver customized version of BitDefender older than the retail version of BitDefender? Are updates also older? Is it also an OEM version for PowerArchiver customers only?

spwolf · Mar 10, 2011, 12:55 AM

@Keith:

Is the PowerArchiver customized version of BitDefender older than the retail version of BitDefender? Are updates also older? Is it also an OEM version for PowerArchiver customers only?

apsolutely not, it is latest version with latest updates, bitdefender updates more than 10 times per day…. if you have more questions, it would be better to open up another thread so we dont crowd this one as people will have hard time getting the info they care about.

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