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    PA 21.00.18 Action / Test behaves oddly for me on .PA files
    Brian GregoryB

    PA 21.00.18 running on Windows 7 64 bit.
    I made a big .PA file and thought I’d check it was made correctly with Menu / Actions / Test.
    Discovered:
    a) PA always issues a UAC prompt to do this!
    b) PA always says there are many errors in PA files.

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    Convert archive is incorrect for some WinRAR 5 archives
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    WinRAR 5 has a rather useful option in some cases, which is to be able to create an archive by replacing identical files with a reference to the first occurrence (hardlink) within the archive.
    In case you choose to convert the file with PowerArchiver to another format, however, the resulting archive does not have all the files. It does not consider those that were present as hardlinks.
    If you do a normal extraction of the RAR archive instead, even with PowerArchivier, all the files are extracted correctly.

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    Some bugs on Advanced options
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    When adding to a file archive, and selecting for example PA format, strong optimization method, extreme compression. In the Advanced Options section you change to Automatic, EXE Filter and PDF filter . You return to the main section and save the Profile. When you then reload the profile you do not have the Automatic options of EXE Filter and PDF saved there.
    I noticed that instead if you change other options they are saved correctly (except for the Filter box values).

    Also among the various changes to the advanced options you click the “Calculate RAM usage” button the value seems to be added to the previous one. You can see it for example just by clicking the button twice in a row, the value changes. Edit: actually after many attempts now it seems to write a stable value (it does not change with each click). Maybe a synchronization problem in the calculation?

    Used PowerArchivier 2023 but there is the same behavior with the 2022

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    Solved Starting PA is slow

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      ChrisGee
      last edited by

      Hello,

      PA (latest version) on Win 7 x64, quad core, 3GHz, SDD, takes 4 seconds to start.
      Why is this so slow.
      With 7zip the same archivce is opened in some milliseconds!!

      Quitting the Antivirus Program (Kaspersky) does not change that.

      Please advise.

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        ckit Alpha Testers @spwolf
        last edited by ckit

        @spwolf Most of the time 1sec maybe a little less.

        My PA 2017 install is on a Samsung 950 Pro M.2 NVMe
        My testing was on a Samsung 850 EVO drive though

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        • spwolfS
          spwolf conexware
          last edited by

          @ChrisGee:

          Hello,

          PA (latest version) on Win 7 x64, quad core, 3GHz, SDD, takes 4 seconds to start.
          Why is this so slow.
          With 7zip the same archivce is opened in some milliseconds!!

          Quitting the Antivirus Program (Kaspersky) does not change that.

          Please advise.

          is everything fast when you use shell extensions to preview or extract the file?

          thanks!

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            ChrisGee @spwolf
            last edited by

            yes, e.g. extracting or packing via the explorer context menu is faster.

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            • Brian GregoryB
              Brian Gregory Alpha Testers
              last edited by

              @ChrisGee:

              Hello,

              PA (latest version) on Win 7 x64, quad core, 3GHz, SDD, takes 4 seconds to start.
              Why is this so slow.
              With 7zip the same archivce is opened in some milliseconds!!

              Quitting the Antivirus Program (Kaspersky) does not change that.

              Please advise.

              Are you using Microsoft EMET?
              I found all sorts of things could go really slowly with EMET installed.

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                ChrisGee @Brian Gregory
                last edited by

                @Brian:

                Are you usign Microsoft EMET?
                I found all sorts of things could go really slowly with EMET installed.

                No, EMET is not installed.

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                  jkb @ChrisGee
                  last edited by

                  Hi,

                  I also found it to be slow to startup - I’m on the latest version as of today. Disabling “Silenty check for update at startup” seems to have made it a little bit faster for me.

                  Configuration > Autoupdate

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                    ChrisGee @jkb
                    last edited by

                    PA starting is still slow.

                    Here a log from the process monitor:
                    16:19:17,6877295 7932 POWERARC.EXE RegOpenKey HKLM\Software\Wow6432Node\PowerArchiverInt\General SUCCESS Desired Access: Read
                    16:19:17,6877469 7932 POWERARC.EXE RegSetInfoKey HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\PowerArchiverInt\General SUCCESS KeySetInformationClass: KeySetHandleTagsInformation, Length: 0
                    16:19:17,6877623 7932 POWERARC.EXE RegQueryValue HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\PowerArchiverInt\General\Language NAME NOT FOUND Length: 144
                    16:19:17,6877831 7932 POWERARC.EXE RegCloseKey HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\PowerArchiverInt\General SUCCESS
                    16:19:17,6881508 7932 POWERARC.EXE CreateFile C:\Program Files (x86)\PowerArchiver\UPDATE.INI NAME NOT FOUND Desired Access: Read Attributes, Disposition: Open, Options: Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a
                    16:19:18,1703775 7932 POWERARC.EXE RegQueryKey HKCU SUCCESS Query: HandleTags, HandleTags: 0x0
                    16:19:18,1704031 7932 POWERARC.EXE RegQueryKey HKCU SUCCESS Query: Name
                    16:19:18,1704290 7932 POWERARC.EXE RegOpenKey HKCU\Software\PowerArchiverInt\General SUCCESS Desired Access: Query Value, Enumerate Sub Keys, Read Control

                    It seems after trying to create the file update.ini, PA takes 0.5 seconds.
                    But it seems it cannot create the file, as the folder is usually writeprotected.
                    Inifiles should always be in the proifile folder.

                    But same delay when update.ini exists.
                    What should be in the update.ini?

                    And later in the log there isd another 0.5 seconds gap where the processmonitor reports no action.

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                    • spwolfS
                      spwolf conexware
                      last edited by

                      Hello ChrisGee,

                      Choice of skins will speed up loading of main application. Try using classic interface for instance, instead of modern.

                      It has nothing to do with reading from the registry, delays you see there are due to code loading internally in the executable which is not shown in any kind of 3rd party tool such as process explorer, or related when it reads something from registry.

                      For upcoming PA 2017, we are looking at speeding up load of main application as well. Of course, using shell and preview window is absolutely the fastest way to use PowerArchiver.

                      We will have some alpha testing of new versions soon enough, hopefully we can reduce the time to load main application extensively without losing any of features (compression ones, but maybe we will have to lose some interface options).

                      Thanks!

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                        drteeth @spwolf
                        last edited by

                        I too have never found PA to be particularly swift when loading, even when it is cached (successive loads).

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                          delixyr
                          last edited by delixyr

                          The latest version of PA 2017 works slow for me for a rather powerful system with 12 GB of RAM and i7.
                          Explorer context menu extracting, launching main UI and Toolbox… All are slow.

                          Even saving settings and closing main window is slow… Takes like 4 seconds to do all that.

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                            spwolf conexware @delixyr
                            last edited by

                            @delixyr said in Starting PA is slow:

                            The latest version of PA 2017 works slow for me for a rather powerful system with 12 GB of RAM and i7.
                            Explorer context menu extracting, launching main UI and Toolbox… All are slow.

                            Even saving settings and closing main window is slow… Takes like 4 seconds to do all that.

                            we have sped up explorer compress to file, extract to / to “instant” from “4s” in next build.

                            As to closing, someone else reported this but we can not reproduce this. Does this happen each time for you? And what AV do you use? OS? Thanks a lot!

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                              Blanzer @delixyr
                              last edited by

                              @delixyr said in Starting PA is slow:

                              The latest version of PA 2017 works slow for me for a rather powerful system with 12 GB of RAM and i7.
                              Explorer context menu extracting, launching main UI and Toolbox… All are slow.

                              Even saving settings and closing main window is slow… Takes like 4 seconds to do all that.

                              having the same issue, is there a way to fix it?

                              https://legalsteroids.best/

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                                spwolf conexware
                                last edited by

                                you can check latest .83 build, now shell extensions compress/extract start instantly, this is something we could “easily” optimize in 2017.

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                                  nikkho Alpha Testers @spwolf
                                  last edited by

                                  @spwolf said in Starting PA is slow:

                                  you can check latest .83 build, now shell extensions compress/extract start instantly, this is something we could “easily” optimize in 2017.

                                  Build 83 feels a bit faster. “Extract here” context menu takes about 2 seconds to start showing the extract dialog. Not fast yet nevertheless.

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                                    spwolf conexware @nikkho
                                    last edited by

                                    @nikkho said in Starting PA is slow:

                                    @spwolf said in Starting PA is slow:

                                    you can check latest .83 build, now shell extensions compress/extract start instantly, this is something we could “easily” optimize in 2017.

                                    Build 83 feels a bit faster. “Extract here” context menu takes about 2 seconds to start showing the extract dialog. Not fast yet nevertheless.

                                    interesting, now this loads before rest of the pa.exe code. On all of my computers it is pretty instant, vs 4s-5s before. For instance compress+options is still slower like before, check how long it takes?

                                    Timing it with stopwatch, it is around 0.9s-1.0s to show here.

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                                      delixyr @delixyr
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                                      @spwolf @Blanzer I have added a screen recording here : https://forums.powerarchiver.com/topic/5793/real-slow-ux-pa-2017

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                                        nikkho Alpha Testers @spwolf
                                        last edited by

                                        @spwolf I almost use Compress with options, due to checking “Experimental codecs”. I timed “Extract here” and it is about 1.5-2.0 seconds. As I said, faster than before, but still slow. To me, things longer than 1s, are not instant. Maybe a matter of perception.

                                        Anyway, it is a nice improvement.

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                                          spwolf conexware @nikkho
                                          last edited by

                                          @nikkho said in Starting PA is slow:

                                          @spwolf I almost use Compress with options, due to checking “Experimental codecs”. I timed “Extract here” and it is about 1.5-2.0 seconds. As I said, faster than before, but still slow. To me, things longer than 1s, are not instant. Maybe a matter of perception.

                                          Anyway, it is a nice improvement.

                                          How slow is compressed with options? It got small improvement, but nothing like other options… Worstvxaee scenarios we have here it improved from 5s to 4s.

                                          on my laptop for me extract here is 0.8s and compress to file is 1s. If I do a lot of commpression tasks and memory gets fragmented it might get slower but that’s about what’s possible.

                                          Do you use any av?

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                                            ckit Alpha Testers
                                            last edited by

                                            Not sure if this will work as I’ve only just starting playing with it.

                                            Install Process Lasso Free (I’m a Pro user) and set powerarc.exe as “Classify as a High Performance process”

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                                              spwolf conexware @ckit
                                              last edited by

                                              @ckit said in Starting PA is slow:

                                              Not sure if this will work as I’ve only just starting playing with it.

                                              Install Process Lasso Free (I’m a Pro user) and set powerarc.exe as “Classify as a High Performance process”

                                              how fast is extract here and compress to .pa/zip for you, for first show of PA window?

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                                                ckit Alpha Testers @spwolf
                                                last edited by ckit

                                                @spwolf Most of the time 1sec maybe a little less.

                                                My PA 2017 install is on a Samsung 950 Pro M.2 NVMe
                                                My testing was on a Samsung 850 EVO drive though

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