End of Powerarchiver

[davidsplash]

Your new name for a new archive format is allready in use .paf extension

A Packed Animation File made my microsoft

[spwolf]

it is hard to find 3 letter extension that has not been used already, most important thing is that it has not been used by something very popular

[spwolf]

if you guys have any other suggestions? Maybe .pa?

[spwolf]

everything is still in the air :)

[Wandus]

Maybe, .pax? like most new format file (eg. .docx, xlsx, zipx, etc.)

[TBGBe]

What about PCZ (PowerArchiver/Conexware/Zipper)?

[spwolf]

i kind of like .pa… it is easy to say too and obviously thats what we call PowerArchiver too :)

[drteeth]

Why limit one’s self to 3 letters for an extension? How anout .papa or .para?

DrT

[spwolf]

.powerarchiver? Looks strange though

[drteeth]

@spwolf:

.powerarchiver? Looks strange though

Some might say unique and original :)!

Regards

DrT

[amh209]

How about zsc (zipped super compressed)?

[Mameluke]

Is there a reason why we are limited to three letters?

I mean .powerarchiver is a bit long, but how about 4 letters?

The idea in selecting this is to make the extension pronounceable and viable as a verb in a sentence.

You can .zip a file. You can .rar a a file. See what I mean?

How about:

.PARC (Powerarchiver ARChive)

Mame

[TBGBe]

If the compression is going to be better, then why not a “size” indication - something like .nano or .pico …
Or would that be exaggeration?

[gan]

How about pafx instead of paf like zipx, docx and so one. Even if paf is not used by something very popular i understand that it could be annoying with the same extention for those that actually use an application that use the “Packed Animation File” format.

-gan

[drteeth]

Got it!
.pazip, .parar etc
Job done!

[spwolf]

i like .pa or .powerarchiver.

Problem with .powerarchiver (which is the coolest) is that it might take too much space in file lists…

or?

I really like it :)

[gan]

.pa is used as well by Print Artist by Nova Development, but i don’t know if anyone actually use that program so might not be a problem.

I think .powerarchiver is too long. I always choose to show the extension in Windows. For those that use the default setting and hide extensions for known file formats they won’t see it anyway.

If the options are .pa or .powerarchiver i would prefer .pa even if already used.

-gan

[Luxor]

How about EPA?

Elite PowerArchiver

[guido]

.paa PowerArchiver Archive?

[Mili]

.pow!

want he best archive format? POW IT!

:D

[guido]

Pow!!!

[davidsplash]

best one is .spa

super powerarchiver or special powerarchiver or spwolf powerarchiver

[By-Tor]

I would go with either .pa or .parc.

[spwolf]

.torrent
.powerarchiver

[davidsplash]

if you want to use just three letters then

.pow

meaning power

or

.pff

meaning powerarchiver file format

or

.fpa

meaning format powerachiver

[spwolf]

.torrent
.power
.powerarchiver
.pa

?

[davidsplash]

idea is to use

.paff or .pafa

powerarchiver file formart or powearchiver file archive

[Mameluke]

If i had to pick between those I would go with .PA

.Powerarchiver is just too long imo

Mame

[mwb1100]

I vote for the .pax suggestion made by Wandus.

[davidsplash]

sorry but .pax is in use

PaX is a patch for the Linux kernel

[davidsplash]

why not .spf

meaning spwolf powearxchiver format

[Luxor]

@davidsplash:

sorry but .pax is in use

As is nearly everything else that has been suggested. So I don’t see that as a problem myself.

[spwolf]

.torrent
.power
.pa

:-)

[mwb1100]

@Luxor:

@davidsplash:

sorry but .pax is in use

As is nearly everything else that has been suggested. So I don’t see that as a problem myself.

Right - many extensions are used by multiple bits of software.

• .doc - used by Word and WordPerfect
• .bin, .img - used for many different things
• .pdb - used for MSVC’s debugging symbols and Palm software packages
• .dwt - used for AutoCAD and DreamWeaver templates

The key is: will the conflict cause a lot of headaches? I think the only time the registered program for an extension is an issue is so the Explorer can figure out what program will be started when the file is double clicked.

I have a feeling that there won’t be too many PA users who are doing a whole lot with Linux kernel patch files.

[guido]

maybe .guido ??

[amh209]

I will vote for guido :)

[gan]

@mwb1100:

The key is: will the conflict cause a lot of headaches? I think the only time the registered program for an extension is an issue is so the Explorer can figure out what program will be started when the file is double clicked.

I have a feeling that there won’t be too many PA users who are doing a whole lot with Linux kernel patch files.

I actually agree, but it won’t hurt trying to avoid such a conflict. It’s not that important what the extension will be even if it would be nice if not too long. It’s more important to avoid headaches like you said, but if finding an extension that’s never been used that’s even better of course.

Unless the new format have much better compression ratio than 7z without being a lot slower i cannot really see the benefit of just another format. 7z is pretty common, the compression is great and extraction supported by most applications. So really no reason to use a new format unless it’s much better i think. For me it would also be important that other apps can extract these archives as well and not only PA.

I actually wonder….do we really need a new format? Should ConeXware spend their time on other tasks like fixing bugs faster, adding requested features and enhance the current features instead? Just a thought…

-gan

[spwolf]

@gan:

I actually agree, but it won’t hurt trying to avoid such a conflict. It’s not that important what the extension will be even if it would be nice if not too long. It’s more important to avoid headaches like you said, but if finding an extension that’s never been used that’s even better of course.

Unless the new format have much better compression ratio than 7z without being a lot slower i cannot really see the benefit of just another format. 7z is pretty common, the compression is great and extraction supported by most applications. So really no reason to use a new format unless it’s much better i think. For me it would also be important that other apps can extract these archives as well and not only PA.

I actually wonder….do we really need a new format? Should ConeXware spend their time on other tasks like fixing bugs faster, adding requested features and enhance the current features instead? Just a thought…

-gan

if you have bugs, wishes, etc, there are forums for that and post away!

powerarchiver is compression utility… do you need compression format that can compress 30% better than anything else on the market, be truly multicore optimized and be first major format to finally use the power of multicore processors?

i think we do :-)

[gan]

@spwolf:

if you have bugs, wishes, etc, there are forums for that and post away!

I already did, but still waiting:) But that’s actually beside my point here.

@spwolf:

powerarchiver is compression utility… do you need compression format that can compress 30% better than anything else on the market, be truly multicore optimized and be first major format to finally use the power of multicore processors?
i think we do :-)

I agree and that’s what i said as well. It has to be pretty much better (compression, speed and so on) and hopefully in time supported by most other compression software. If not 7z, rar, tar-gzip and zip will work just fine.

If you promise 30% better compression ratio and still fast during compression/extraction then i look forward to the new format:)

-gan

[spwolf]

@gan:

I already did, but still waiting:) But that’s actually beside my point here.

I agree and that’s what i said as well. It has to be pretty much better (compression, speed and so on) and hopefully in time supported by most other compression software. If not 7z, rar, tar-gzip and zip will work just fine.

If you promise 30% better compression ratio and still fast during compression/extraction then i look forward to the new format:)

-gan

keep in mind that we have separate engineers working on GUI and current formats, vs completely new format :-). So nothing in main PA, be it our zip support, gui, bug fixes, new ideas, are suffering because of new format.

thing with current formats is that most popular one was done 14 years ago…

… and none were done after multicore processors became popular… so without getting into technicalities, i think it is enough to say that there is no popular format out there that users multicore processors for extraction… not zip, zipx, rar, ace, 7zip, stuffit, tar, etc…

And it is impossible to do it without building format with that in mind, so those formats will never be able to do that.

[davidsplash]

what we want is a format that can be used by as many operating systems as possible one that wont fade into the background but will keep developing.

I would like to see one with data recovery and great compression rate. I really wnat a format that can handle several formats like txt, wave, doc etc formats and decide what routine is bestto use on each format. That will slow it down a bit. I want one that has powerfull password protection. Basically i want all features of every existing archive format put into one. so we have one format sounds strange but i want a bit of everything in one format.

[spwolf]

one benefit of having special format for jpeg, mp3, etc, is that you can make them faster than if you compressed it with WinRar but at the same time, instead of getting 0.1% compression, you get 15%-30%…

thats pretty great thing with special codecs.

[spwolf]

of course, if you have smart engineers that can do that :-)

[davidsplash]

how about pff meaning powersarchiver file format

pff thats what i vote for