Installer problem

[drteeth]

Why is 11.50.61 still being offered for update when 11.50.66 is available for download - fixing some issues reported here?

Regards

DrT

[spwolf]

because 11.51 will come out with some new features soon, and we dont want for people to have to update every few days.

[drteeth]

I see, though I personally don’t mind.

Regards

DrT

[spwolf]

@drteeth:

I see, though I personally don’t mind.

Regards

DrT

i know, some people complain though… we do post all the internal updates to twitter so who wants to get updated, thats the best way :)

[skypx]

@spwolf:

i know, some people complain though… we do post all the internal updates to twitter so who wants to get updated, thats the best way :)

To “twitter”…. why not post them here?

[drteeth]

Good point. The world has gone Twitter mad; best to use the PA forums fully.

DrT

[amh209]

I have to agree, I would much rather see them here than Twitter.

[spwolf]

its just easier for us to post it at one location, instead of 3.:-).

[skypx]

@spwolf:

its just easier for us to post it at one location, instead of 3.:-).

Guess I’m one of the few people that refuses to use twitter…… Please bear with me for a moment… I want to insure I have my facts straight, ConeXware has its own forum for PA but uses a totally different “social network” to disseminate updated information… WOW. :confused:

Wouldn’t a sticky entitled “PA2010 v11.50.xx” or “PA2010 v11.50.xx beta” better serve your current customer base? And use “Twitter” to attract new customers?

[spwolf]

@skypx:

Guess I’m one of the few people that refuses to use twitter…… Please bear with me for a moment… I want to insure I have my facts straight, ConeXware has its own forum for PA but uses a totally different “social network” to disseminate updated information… WOW. :confused:

Wouldn’t a sticky entitled “PA2010 v11.50.xx” or “PA2010 v11.50.xx beta” better serve your current customer base? And use “Twitter” to attract new customers?

well we always update threads where bugs were fixed with info on new version. Twitter is more of what newsletters used to be. You can easily get notification on whats latest @ conexware.

[moles42]

@skypx:

Guess I’m one of the few people that refuses to use twitter…… customers?

nah…you’re not alone skypx…plenty of us out there.
believe it or not I’ve actually seen updates on another site…:rolleyes:

eventually though I find where admin has hidden them…:D

[nameless]

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[mwb1100]

Another PA user/luddite who doesn’t twitter…

[Luxor]

@mwb1100:

Another PA user/luddite who doesn’t twitter…

You can add me to the list too

[skypx]

@moles42:

nah…you’re not alone skypx…plenty of us out there.
believe it or not I’ve actually seen updates on another site…:rolleyes:

eventually though I find where admin has hidden them…:D

@mwb1100:

Another PA user/luddite who doesn’t twitter…

We should form our own club and call it…… no, no, no, if we did then we’ll be back to where we started. :D

[nameless]

We’re just talking about a site where you can sign up and then easily subscribe to email and/or RSS updates for internals builds of PowerArchiver. There needn’t be a political or philosophical component to this.

I admit I have heretofore felt the same way about Twitter–I had no intention of signing up, and I’d gotten really sick of hearing about it. The whole concept doesn’t make sense to me. (Who cares if you’re about to wash the dishes or pinch one out?)

But for software updates, it makes much more sense. (As long as the ConeXware people don’t start notifying us that they’re about to do the dishes or…)

I created a Twitter account and signed up. It’s not a big deal. (Though it did take about 7 hours to find an unused user account name.)

[skypx]

@nameless:

We’re just talking about a site where you can sign up and then easily subscribe to email and/or RSS updates for internals builds of PowerArchiver. There needn’t be a political or philosophical component to this.

I admit I have heretofore felt the same way about Twitter–I had no intention of signing up, and I’d gotten really sick of hearing about it. The whole concept doesn’t make sense to me. (Who cares if you’re about to wash the dishes or pinch one out?)

But for software updates, it makes much more sense. (As long as the ConeXware people don’t start notifying us that they’re about to do the dishes or…)

I created a Twitter account and signed up. It’s not a big deal. (Though it did take about 7 hours to find an unused user account name.)

You are absolutely correct! Creating an account with twitter would probably take no more than 5 minutes, and I am not trying to annoy or disrespect anyone here. I’m simply expressing my opinion. I really feel ConeXware’s existing customer base would be better served by simply creating an “update/beta sticky” (users would subscribe to the thread if they wanted to be informed of updates). We would we find bugs that were missed and in turn this would mean a better product.

IMO twitter should be used to attract new customers (how many people use it? >100M?) and their forums should be a wealth of information for their existing customers. I would even volunteer to get it done if needed. :)

[drteeth]

@Luxor:

You can add me to the list too

And me! If I ‘twittered’, I’d get treatment very quickly.

Cheers

DrT

[drteeth]

@spwolf:

its just easier for us to post it at one location, instead of 3.:-).

How about a read-only forum here called ‘updates’?

Cheers

DrT

[TBGBe]

@skypx:

You are absolutely correct! Creating an account with twitter would probably take no more than 5 minutes…

As I understand it, you don’t need to sign up unless you want to become a Twitter. You can just use RSS to receive PowerArchiver “tweets” - that is what I’ve done anyway.
@skypx:

IMO twitter should be used to attract new customers (how many people use it? >100M?) and their forums should be a wealth of information for their existing customers. I would even volunteer to get it done if needed. :)

How does this attract new customers - do people hunt through twitter looking for this stuff :confused:
If you don’t “know” PowerArchiver, how/why read the tweets?

[nameless]

@skypx:

I really feel ConeXware’s existing customer base would be better served by simply creating an “update/beta sticky” (users would subscribe to the thread if they wanted to be informed of updates).

I totally agree. I wasn’t supporting the use of Twitter for update notifications. I’d prefer it to be done here in the forum as well. I only signed up on Twitter because that’s how they chose to do it…

@drteeth:

And me! If I ‘twittered’, I’d get treatment very quickly.

Yeah, but you can sign up for the “PowerArchiver” Twitter updates, and I’m pretty sure that wouldn’t count as “Twittering”. :)

@TBGBe:

As I understand it, you don’t need to sign up unless you want to become a Twitter. You can just use RSS to receive PowerArchiver “tweets” - that is what I’ve done anyway.

Ah hell, you mean I didn’t have to sign up? Going to delete account now…

[yoniy0]

Come on guys, RSS is a great way to stay updated. I personally don’t care whether it’s a twitter RSS or one directly from ConeXware (wouldn’t say I think that making one of those is a bad idea, though)

[spwolf]

@TBGBe:

As I understand it, you don’t need to sign up unless you want to become a Twitter. You can just use RSS to receive PowerArchiver “tweets” - that is what I’ve done anyway.

How does this attract new customers - do people hunt through twitter looking for this stuff :confused:
If you don’t “know” PowerArchiver, how/why read the tweets?

yes, you don’t even have to create an account with twitter to read updates - you can just:
a. subscribe to RSS feed on twitter
b. Visit our blogs where you see tweeter feed.
c. visit twitter page without having tweeter account.

Usefulness of having tweeter account itself comes if you want to get email notification about tweeter updates.

Its quite interesting to see people “oppose” tweeter, its basically modern newsletter and not an facebook/myspace kind of social networking (although i guess you can make it so if you really wanted). I wonder if this is what happened in 90’s when internet started spreading everywhere (no, i dont want to use email, fax is just fine!) :-).

Keep in mind also that:
a. it is VERY rare that we dont release updates through official update. I dont actually remember when did this happen last time :).
b. In those rare cases, we update bug reports threads so you know how to find the latest release in case your issue has been fixed. Which is what we also did here.

I am old school too, and I personally cant see myself using facebook or myspace, and initially I could never see the use of tweeter, but after using it for a while, it is really very simple way to get updated on things you care about, and very different from forums. It is basically an non-official announcement forum page :).

[yoniy0]

@spwolf:

a. subscribe to RSS feed on twitter

spwolf, I actually tried to find your page on twitter in order to subscribe, but couldn’t do that. I guess twitter isn’t for me, after all. Nevertheless, could you link to it here?

@spwolf:

a. it is VERY rare that we dont release updates through official update. I dont actually remember when did this happen last time :).

Actually, I can :). You never released RC version of PA2010 after the 2nd one (I mean, except for on the forums), though there were about 5 or 6 versions if I remember correctly.

[nameless]

I guess these work without a Twitter account:

PowerArchiver Twitter page:

http://twitter.com/powerarchiver

PowerArchiver Twitter RSS feed:

http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/21028812.rss

Example for finding Twitter users (since Twitter prevents you from using the “Find People” link unless you join Twitter):

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Atwitter.com+powerarchiver

[spwolf]

@yoniy0:

spwolf, I actually tried to find your page on twitter in order to subscribe, but couldn’t do that. I guess twitter isn’t for me, after all. Nevertheless, could you link to it here?

Actually, I can :). You never released RC version of PA2010 after the 2nd one (I mean, except for on the forums), though there were about 5 or 6 versions if I remember correctly.

nameless already answered how to find it (its also on the front page of our site), as to the RC’s - those were not official updates though (there is an difference, as usually those test releases introduce new bugs), and every thread got link to the “fix” release so everyone who could report the issue could test fix. Those were definetly not releases for general public :).

[moles42]

ah what the heck…I’m following you on ‘twitter’ now guys…it’s either that or remain a dinosaur I guess…lol

[nameless]

@moles42:

ah what the heck…I’m following you on ‘twitter’ now guys…it’s either that or remain a dinosaur I guess…lol

FWIW I signed up a few days ago and my testes have not yet fallen off.

[moles42]

@nameless:

FWIW I signed up a few days ago and my testes have not yet fallen off.

I’ll monitor mine closely then…:D

[spwolf]

@nameless:

FWIW I signed up a few days ago and my testes have not yet fallen off.

good one :-)

[Luxor]

I have signed up to Twitter now too.
I feel dirty now. :D

[moles42]

@Luxor:

I feel dirty now. :D

and rightly so too…:p

[spwolf]

watch it now, you will be stalked! ;-)

[drteeth]

I check the Twitter link every so often for the updates, but I will NOT sign up…checking every week or so makes me feel sad enough as it is.

Cheers

DrT

[spwolf]

@drteeth:

I check the Twitter link every so often for the updates, but I will NOT sign up…checking every week or so makes me feel sad enough as it is.

Cheers

DrT

hardcore ;-)

[RJWaring]

I have been following PA on Twitter and Facebook for sometime but to be fair I try and log onto PA Forum every day and keep upto date with as much as possible.

Luxor, I must admit when I joined Facebook I felt I needed to wash a few times! as I was presured by my Friends and work mates. :D

[Luxor]

Sir Richard I know a good supplier of carbolic soap if you need some. ;)

Even I draw the line at Facebook.

[RJWaring]

ROFL, Yes please! That and an iron Brush should lift that dirty feeling once and for all. :)

[moles42]

‘carbolic soap’…now there’s a term I haven’t heard for a very long time…takes me back to my infancy…:D

[RJWaring]

@moles42:

‘carbolic soap’…now there’s a term I haven’t heard for a very long time…takes me back to my infancy…:D

Do you remember the smell?? Loverly! I think it came in pink bars! Brings us back :)

[moles42]

@Sir:

Do you remember the smell?? Loverly! I think it came in pink bars! Brings us back :)

just for you Sir !!! :D
in case you were feeling a little grimy after all that facebook activity… :p

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7886/soapc.jpg

[RJWaring]

@moles42:

just for you Sir !!! :D
in case you were feeling a little grimy after all that facebook activity… :p

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7886/soapc.jpg

Thats the one!! “FlashBack” cheers Moles… integrate scratch and sniff on this forum :D

[moles42]

now there’s an interesting concept Richard…what would you have on the forum if you actually could intergrate a ‘scratch & sniff’ option ?

A Big favourite of mine has always been the smell of ‘Playdoh’…my 7 year old daughter plays with it quite often and I can’t help but get involved with it and get that great smell on my hands…brings back floods of memories from when I was a kid…:)

anyone else got thoughts on the issue?
maybe something that’s currently in your lives or a product which brings back memories from long ago :D

Apologies to Admin…I seem to be steering this thread in a totally different direction…:o

they will end up banning me for ‘spamming’…:eek:

[RJWaring]

Now Moles, That is a question with so many possible answers! :D Playdoh was also one of those things I used to play with but at the moment my Daughter is only 2 Years old so the closest smell I could contribute is that of a nappy.

When I was a kid there was a toy my sister used to play with it was like a weird animal with a really sweet smell and each model would smell of something different like blueberry pie and vanilla etc but for the sake of me I cant remember the name.

As for admin banging it up technically as this post was linked into Social Networking we are only following on as you would in Facebook where people talk about one thing and it ends up on a totaly different subject :D

Pass that soap now please…

[Mili]

Who’s hungry?

[moles42]

can’t you just smell that playdoh Mili…:D

[RJWaring]

@Mili:

Who’s hungry?

Looks nice but is it Free Range? :D

[drteeth]

Just on my Linux machine and just scratched my screen.
Coor a) fish and chips (from an English chippy on the left) and b) pint of Tim Taylor’s from the Junction Inn @ Otley, Yorkshire on the right.
= Hog’s heaven. Long live open source eh? And you guys can only think of soap? <shakes head=“”>.

LOL.

DrT</shakes>

[Luxor]

But at least we’re clean. :p;):D