End of Powerarchiver

[lit2fly]

when will PA 2007 be out? I can’t wait to buy it :D

[RJWaring]

Hi,

Once all the bugs have been fixed and PA Beta Testers are happy then I’m sure the release will come soon. We are in the second week of beta 8 with 9 soon to follow.

If you are purchasing for a personal basis up to 5 computers then then you can buy Now! and you will receive the upgrade to PowerArchiver 2007 free.

For more information visit;
http://www.powerarchiver.com/order/

[spwolf]

p.s. all customers get additional free PA 2007 update, if they purchased in 2007

[moles42]

although I accept that programs are upgraded and improved upon as newer versions are released I’m afraid I don’t see it that way with PA10 this time around.

I’ve been an avid user of your software for a number of years now and always held it in high regards when I needed to zip or create self-extracting files but now I fear the program seems to be taking the same route as Ahead Nero did a year or so ago…they too made a massive change to layout and upgrades only to
find themselves providing customers with ‘bloated’ software.

all bells & whistles trying to impress the customer
when really all the customer wants is simplicity.
what makes me qualified to say so? well nothing really apart from being one of those said customers who have used many many versions of the 2 products mentioned here.

my reply here isn’t trying to devalue the product but merely for me to voice MY opinion about the latest version of PA…I’m afraid I for one will be staying with previous versions of your product and I’m sure it will serve me well for many years to come.

for me it seemed like a backward step in many respects and although it does still give me the opportunity to use the ‘classic’ layout I don’t see any reason for me to upgrade on a permenant basis to PA10.

I still like the ability to create a self-extracting file without additional windows popping up for me to confirm my choices but I’m sure your product will have many more positive votes than my negative one.

I still hold your product in high regards but for me an earlier 9+ version will be the way to go.

thanks for letting me air my views.

Mike.

[spwolf]

@moles42:

although I accept that programs are upgraded and improved upon as newer versions are released I’m afraid I don’t see it that way with PA10 this time around.

I’ve been an avid user of your software for a number of years now and always held it in high regards when I needed to zip or create self-extracting files but now I fear the program seems to be taking the same route as Ahead Nero did a year or so ago…they too made a massive change to layout and upgrades only to
find themselves providing customers with ‘bloated’ software.

all bells & whistles trying to impress the customer
when really all the customer wants is simplicity.
what makes me qualified to say so? well nothing really apart from being one of those said customers who have used many many versions of the 2 products mentioned here.

my reply here isn’t trying to devalue the product but merely for me to voice MY opinion about the latest version of PA…I’m afraid I for one will be staying with previous versions of your product and I’m sure it will serve me well for many years to come.

for me it seemed like a backward step in many respects and although it does still give me the opportunity to use the ‘classic’ layout I don’t see any reason for me to upgrade on a permenant basis to PA10.

I still like the ability to create a self-extracting file without additional windows popping up for me to confirm my choices but I’m sure your product will have many more positive votes than my negative one.

I still hold your product in high regards but for me an earlier 9+ version will be the way to go.

thanks for letting me air my views.

Mike.

I dont think you can call PowerArchiver bloated, as PA 10 is smaller than PA 9, if you take away Vista icons and 7zip SFX, which were not there in PA 9, and thats despite other features and new UI.

It is also faster than PA 9 due to optimizations we did, in both compression (such as 7zip) as well as startup of main application.

We actually worked pretty hard to optimize PowerArchiver to be both faster and take up less space. If we didnt, we would probably save 2 months of development time :-).

I am glad we decided to keep old interface as well, since obviously not everyone will like the new one.

[RJWaring]

Mike,

I respect your comments and to some part agree with you. I myself am a heavy system user and have experience in many fields most of which involve using multiple OS’s, applications and office documents.

But I know one thing our main achievement and I mean “Our” as in the human race is within Communication Technology and Software development. Programmers & Developers are continually creating ways to improve our lives and make things more user friendly and automated by doing so the end user becomes more able by saving time and given the ability of multi-tasking.

Unfortunately, GUI “Graphical User Interfaces” will change and this happens once every 5 years on average!

Most businesses within the next 2 years would have implemented Office 2007 and Vista as Microsoft will cease all updates to Office 2003 and XP after the final Service Pack 3 or 4!

This means if you wish for further support and security updates as well as your own Documents to be compatible with a majority of users and companies throughout the globe you too will have to update and “adapt” to the changes.

And quite right PowerArchiver have re-developed their program to a new style and improved on the usability and overall performance in order to align themselves to the new version of Windows and Office thus enabling users to easily adapt to their software.

So in the next 3-5 years when everyone is using the new Ribbon Menus, programs that still use the old style drop down menus will lose revenue as users will find it harder to remember the old ways and more time consuming to do simple tasks.

An example would be to look at the change from windows 3.1 to 95. It was a massive step but who hear would say they would prefer that system to that of XP? Not many! And that is because after the initial learning of XP, users from all aspects find it is so much easier and quicker than the previous versions.

My advice not just to you but to everyone would be to grin a bare it, take on the new format on the final release of 2007 because it will benefit you in a couple of months time, And at least then you’re not having to be forced to learn a whole new GUI format that everyone else has been using in the next year or two.

[moles42]

Thanks to you guys especially you Richard for the feedback…I was hoping to prompt a strong reply in favour of the product…in all honesty I wouldn’t expect anthing less from you guys.

As I said my post wasn’t to put PA10 down but just to voice how my tastes preferred the older versions as opposed to the new…true the new version is still in it’s infancy and I suppose I haven’t given it an opportunity but it’s not it’s performance I question but moreso it’s now overwhelming appearance and growth in on screen display.

Yes I’m sure it can be configured to fit in a matchbox but for the novice it can seem a daunting task at first glance as opposed to the smaller sleeker earlier vserions.

I know it can still run with the best of them and that products have to evolve in order to keep potential customers happy but I for one still prefer the older more compact versions…I’m not referring to size of program or the amount of memory used but for me it’s the simplicity of it all.

We can discuss the pros and cons of this all day I suppose but each to their own I guess and for now I’ve made my decision…can’t teach an old dog new tricks or so they reckon well I must be that old dog…:)

thanks again for a healthy discussion…
I will still be following the progress of your product…
it’s been a loyal servant over the years.

regards,

Mike.

[RJWaring]

Hi Mike,

I think your allot like everyone else, change can be great but when you are using a program day in and day out it is nice to keep it simple. It works for Winzip as they have made little to no changes to their GUI Since it was created.

The only problem with Winzip is its over hyped and the price is just to expensive for some who just want a archive utility that can read and write compression formats.

I’m sure in a year you will be back :) thinking… Mmmm i liked the old format but the new Ribbon Menu is growing on me.

Well here is hopeing anyway! Keep in touch and again even if you dont use the application or are not keen on the new style it is still helpful to have feed back from outside users.

[spwolf]

@moles42:

Thanks to you guys especially you Richard for the feedback…I was hoping to prompt a strong reply in favour of the product…in all honesty I wouldn’t expect anthing less from you guys.

As I said my post wasn’t to put PA10 down but just to voice how my tastes preferred the older versions as opposed to the new…true the new version is still in it’s infancy and I suppose I haven’t given it an opportunity but it’s not it’s performance I question but moreso it’s now overwhelming appearance and growth in on screen display.

Yes I’m sure it can be configured to fit in a matchbox but for the novice it can seem a daunting task at first glance as opposed to the smaller sleeker earlier vserions.

I know it can still run with the best of them and that products have to evolve in order to keep potential customers happy but I for one still prefer the older more compact versions…I’m not referring to size of program or the amount of memory used but for me it’s the simplicity of it all.

We can discuss the pros and cons of this all day I suppose but each to their own I guess and for now I’ve made my decision…can’t teach an old dog new tricks or so they reckon well I must be that old dog…:)

thanks again for a healthy discussion…
I will still be following the progress of your product…
it’s been a loyal servant over the years.

regards,

Mike.

but I still dont know why you cant just use classic interface :-) and enjoy all the other benefits of PA 10.

:-).

I know, its complicated…

[davidsplash]

the main reason for this user not likeing the new pa10 is that it has not been cracked yet all other versions are on the net already./ The new pa way of security for cracking is much harder and better which is a must in this day and age.

keep up the good work. The new version supports plugins so can be lighter and faster to a degree depending on what plugins you require.

[RJWaring]

I agree that when it comes cracks available. I keep an active check on the software I purchase to see what serials have been sourced out onto the internet. For PA the last version cracked was 2006 v9.51.02 by Alan Cuteri. “I havnt provided the serial”

Please note I am not stating that the individual who’s name is mentioned is responsible for illigaly providing others with a serial as this breaches the contract between the user and ConeXware. I am mearly stating that the last serial I could find had the named individuals details on it this may of been put on against there will or knolage.;) “thats me covered!”

It is very easy to hack the PA Registry and obtain the regname and regnumber. I for example use regedit or tuneup registry editor to view interigate and extract keys So maybe its worth PA looking into other methods. such as encryted ini files to secure a users codes.

However, Either way the serials change on every major release so only users who purchase the software will recieve the updated serial code.

But… Yet again, if I was a user who cracks software and freeloads it to outside sources then I would be part of a large community of other users who do the same.

One of the known techniques is that a bunch of people put togeather money in a online paypal or similar account then buy one licence under a single name and company then share it out and there is nothing software vendors can do bar theaton to take them to court but that involes the software developers finding ways to identify those freeloaders.

This is why Companies like Norton, Mcafee, Adobé and Microsoft have an online Activation system in order to cut down on serial hacks… the issue there is it can cause problems for those loyal users who do buy their software.

[moles42]

@davidsplash:

the main reason for this user not likeing the new pa10 is that it has not been cracked yet all other versions are on the net already./ The new pa way of security for cracking is much harder and better which is a must in this day and age.

keep up the good work. The new version supports plugins so can be lighter and faster to a degree depending on what plugins you require.

David were you referring to ME or yourself when using the term ‘This User’ ???

if it was me then I must stop you there in your assumption of me running a cracked version.
if however you weren’t referring to me then apologies
for assuming you may have been.

Mike.

[spwolf]

@moles42:

David were you referring to ME or yourself when using the term ‘This User’ ???

if it was me then I must stop you there in your assumption of me running a cracked version.
if however you weren’t referring to me then apologies
for assuming you may have been.

Mike.

mike, dont mind david :-).

[spwolf]

@Sir:

I agree that when it comes cracks available. I keep an active check on the software I purchase to see what serials have been sourced out onto the internet. For PA the last version cracked was 2006 v9.51.02 by Alan Cuteri. “I havnt provided the serial”

Please note I am not stating that the individual who’s name is mentioned is responsible for illigaly providing others with a serial as this breaches the contract between the user and ConeXware. I am mearly stating that the last serial I could find had the named individuals details on it this may of been put on against there will or knolage.;) “thats me covered!”

It is very easy to hack the PA Registry and obtain the regname and regnumber. I for example use regedit or tuneup registry editor to view interigate and extract keys So maybe its worth PA looking into other methods. such as encryted ini files to secure a users codes.

However, Either way the serials change on every major release so only users who purchase the software will recieve the updated serial code.

But… Yet again, if I was a user who cracks software and freeloads it to outside sources then I would be part of a large community of other users who do the same.

One of the known techniques is that a bunch of people put togeather money in a online paypal or similar account then buy one licence under a single name and company then share it out and there is nothing software vendors can do bar theaton to take them to court but that involes the software developers finding ways to identify those freeloaders.

This is why Companies like Norton, Mcafee, Adobé and Microsoft have an online Activation system in order to cut down on serial hacks… the issue there is it can cause problems for those loyal users who do buy their software.

I dont know how this turned into cracking thread… Poor Mr Cuteri got his credit card stolen, so I wouldnt be saying anything negative about him :-).

I think our current protection is more then appropriate and we dont want to inconvenience users any further…