7-zip problems AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN…..
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i have tested with 7zip file manager and can not get the same results reported as a fault. What exactly is the fault?
The results produced were the same as powerarchiver, but were displayed differently on winrar. but essentially they were the same.
This there something bi’m missing?
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i have tested with 7zip file manager and can not get the same results reported as a fault. What exactly is the fault?
HandsomeGuy has now said that the problem does not occur in 7-Zip, only in PA using 7z compression.
The references to WinRAR are just confusing things as that cannot perform 7z compression. So I basically ignore them (along with the poor attitude). I do not want to get into fruitless arguments and name calling.
The current problem I’m concerned about is that when compressing “thousands of files and folders”, using 7z format via explorer shell menu, the archive file created is missing some Files and Folder(s).
He also mentioned setting options (Ultra & Solid) so I suppose it was actually via “compress with options” and not “compress to xxx.7z” - but even that is still not clear.
At one point he reported the created archive was missing one folder then later folder(s) and 3 to 5 files. No idea if any or all of the files were in the missing folder(s) or not. Nor has he said how he determined that they were missing in the first place. Apparently, he then deleted the archive so cannot refer to it for more info.
Other than that, he’s told us nothing that enables reproducing the fault.
That’s why I asked for a detailed description of a new compression attempt - although he has also indicated that he may just “give up”.We just have to wait and see if there is a reproducible problem.
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HandsomeGuy has now said that the problem does not occur in 7-Zip, only in PA using 7z compression.
The references to WinRAR are just confusing things as that cannot perform 7z compression. So I basically ignore them (along with the poor attitude). I do not want to get into fruitless arguments and name calling.
The current problem I’m concerned about is that when compressing “thousands of files and folders”, using 7z format via explorer shell menu, the archive file created is missing some Files and Folder(s).
He also mentioned setting options (Ultra & Solid) so I suppose it was actually via “compress with options” and not “compress to xxx.7z” - but even that is still not clear.
At one point he reported the created archive was missing one folder then later folder(s) and 3 to 5 files. No idea if any or all of the files were in the missing folder(s) or not. Nor has he said how he determined that they were missing in the first place. Apparently, he then deleted the archive so cannot refer to it for more info.
Other than that, he’s told us nothing that enables reproducing the fault.
That’s why I asked for a detailed description of a new compression attempt - although he has also indicated that he may just “give up”.We just have to wait and see if there is a reproducible problem.
If ur such a PA genious, u’d know that you can change the default PA 7-zip compression options, and once set, you can then right click and choose compress to xxxx.7z. That is what I’m doing.
Also, I KNOW the files, folders are missing because when I have uncompressed them and then selected them all and gone to properties menu, I get some figures on Windows Explorer. Then I go to the original files and do the exact same thing, and the figures are different. Why? Where have the rest of the files/folders gone?
Also, the “attitude” u describe is natural, as it happens so easily for me, and yet you have a hard time beleived me or replicating the problem. -
If ur such a PA genious, u’d know that you can change the default PA 7-zip compression options, and once set, you can then right click and choose compress to xxxx.7z. That is what I’m doing.
I only said that I was a user not a genius, but if you check you will see that I asked if you use “Compression Profiles” in my description request. You had not mentioned them previously.
@HandsomeGuy:Also, I KNOW the files, folders are missing because when I have uncompressed them and then selected them all and gone to properties menu, I get some figures on Windows Explorer. Then I go to the original files and do the exact same thing, and the figures are different.
OK, that’s first time you have actually mentioned that you are uncompressing the archive, up until now it is possible that you were checking archive properties or using explorer view or some other method and that the problem was in that display. But still you haven’t answered the question previously asked by spwolf and myself - how are you uncompressing?
@HandsomeGuy:Also, the “attitude” u describe is natural, as it happens so easily for me…
It may be natural the first time time you report a problem. It is not (or at least it should not) be continued when you start getting responses asking for more details.
@HandsomeGuy:… and yet you have a hard time beleived me or replicating the problem.
I do not think I have ever said that I do not believe you. But - yes, I have repeatedly said I cannot replicate the problem. So have other people.
You will note the length of this thread and you are still providing “bits” of information not previously mentioned.If it is not possible to reproduce the problem, it is highly unlikely that the developers will be able to find and then fix it. So again, is that a “no” as far as providing the full description in one place is concerned?
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I am decompressing by using PA to open the 7z file and then extracting that way.
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So again, is that a “no” as far as providing the full description in one place is concerned?
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On the assumption that there is no “fault” in PA’s compression, that leaves us with the “files in use” problem.
Having been reminded by Charles, it is possible that the problem you are seeing is caused by a “third party” utility which is preventing PA accessing the files.This is usually (but not exclusively) an “anti-virus” or similar.
When PA accesses the file for compressing, this access is prevented because another utility is accessing the file.The “files in use” problem is that PA will not add the file to the archive AND does not give any warning that this file has been skipped.
There are a few threads on this topic - e.g. this thread in the WishList
http://www.powerarchiver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=900 -
This guy is very rude!!
I’ve never had much problems with PA - if there was a problem, it would be fixed!
You guys should just ignore him!
Keep up the great work!
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On the assumption that there is no “fault” in PA’s compression, that leaves us with the “files in use” problem.
Having been reminded by Charles, it is possible that the problem you are seeing is caused by a “third party” utility which is preventing PA accessing the files.This is usually (but not exclusively) an “anti-virus” or similar.
When PA accesses the file for compressing, this access is prevented because another utility is accessing the file.The “files in use” problem is that PA will not add the file to the archive AND does not give any warning that this file has been skipped.
There are a few threads on this topic - e.g. this thread in the WishList
http://www.powerarchiver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=900Actually no - 7zip will add files in use. It is ZIP format that does not (but still it gives error that files are in use, with list of files not compressed).
You can try it out by playing an mp3 file lets say and then trying compression with different formats.
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Actually no - 7zip will add files in use. It is ZIP format that does not (but still it gives error that files are in use, with list of files not compressed).
You can try it out by playing an mp3 file lets say and then trying compression with different formats.
Yes. Here is just to say again that I hope this could be fixed soon. The different behavior which PA performs in different archive format is very annoying.
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Actually no - 7zip will add files in use. It is ZIP format that does not (but still it gives error that files are in use, with list of files not compressed).
You can try it out by playing an mp3 file lets say and then trying compression with different formats.
I had read the thread and as no-one mentioned specific formats, I thought it was a general “problem”. Thanks for the update/correction.
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This guy is very rude!!
I hope you were not referring to me, if so I assure you it was unintentional. :o
If you are referring to some of the comments by Handsomeguy, then I recommend you ignore them and/or put it down to frustration. Please do not respond in kind and start a “flame war”.
If that happens, the thread will just be locked and nobody wins.
@Shivan:You guys should just ignore him!
He has already said that he felt ignored and that it only increased the frustration when he was trying to report a problem and get it fixed.
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When I tried to compress 150 PSD file of about 30 Megabytes each. It wold go through the compressing stage, but when it finish is said it could not find the directory. When I put only 30 of these PSD files into a zip file it worked ok. This was with Beta 1 of 9.5 I have not tried it with Beta 2 :rolleyes:
Windows XP SP2
I suggest you try again with PA 9.5 Beta 3.
I don’t have any PSD files so just downloaded 5 examples from http://www.elated.com
Didn’t see your problem, but these were a lot smaller (200k - 2MB) and anyway only 5 files doesn’t mean much.If your problem still exists I would start a new thread.
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Unfortunately, real life has intervened.
I will not be able to follow up on this thread until next week.If another “regular tester” is willing, could I ask you to follow up on any further posts from Handsomeguy - concentrating on identifying the problem and not on starting a “flame war”. If you do try but find that you are put off by any abuse, just ignore the thread and I will follow up next week.
->spwolf
Please monitor and delete any spurious/off-topic posts in preference to locking the thread. If there is a problem I want to find it. -
On the assumption that there is no “fault” in PA’s compression, that leaves us with the “files in use” problem.
Having been reminded by Charles, it is possible that the problem you are seeing is caused by a “third party” utility which is preventing PA accessing the files.This is usually (but not exclusively) an “anti-virus” or similar.
When PA accesses the file for compressing, this access is prevented because another utility is accessing the file.The “files in use” problem is that PA will not add the file to the archive AND does not give any warning that this file has been skipped.
There are a few threads on this topic - e.g. this thread in the WishList
http://www.powerarchiver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=900NO, the files are NOT is use at all. I don’t have any active anti-virus or spyware utlilty running. Besides, these apps only run when I manually start them, such as X-Stup Pro 3.1.
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This guy is very rude!!
I’ve never had much problems with PA - if there was a problem, it would be fixed!
You guys should just ignore him!
Keep up the great work!
Man, ur supposed 2 b an alpha tester, and yet you can’t find these problems. If u did ur job properly without worrying about ignoring ppl or who’s being “rude”, then these friggin problems wouldn’t exist in the 1st damn place.
Secondly, “if there was a problem”. Geez man, get off ur rocker. I wouldn’t waste my time on here trying to explain the problem and baggin PA if there was no problem. I have said so many times, but I quite liked PA when it was 1st released. So get ur facts right before u open ur hole.
As for the other administrator dudes hanging with me trying to nut out the problem, I appreciate it. I am NOT trying to be rude, but its just VERY frustrating how it seems I’m the only one with this CONSTANT and CONSISTANT problem.
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No TBGBe, I wasn’t refering to you, it was HandsomeGuy.
Yep, I am an alpha tester, and I have not encountered this problem. 7-ZIP works 100% fine for me.
If I do find bugs, I report it.I also get frustrated sometimes, but I don’t use that type of language.
If you knew how challenging programming can be sometimes, then you would understand what “frustration” means.The bug report is appreciated, but your attitude was not right, that’s all.
End of discussion of this “rudeness” topic.
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all this energy wasted could have gone into more detailed bug report :-).
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You’re right, spwolf!
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Since this problem has been reported, I have been trying to reproduce it on two different machines without any success. I have been able to reproduce a crash when canceling the 7-zip file compression on large files (400MB+ with over 500+ files/folders). Hitting the cancel button has caused PA to stop responding everytime. I let PA set there for just over 20 minutes and PA never did start responding, just hung on canceling.
But back to the original problem of missing folders, so far no luck, all the files I have created have been fine. Wish I could of been more help.
