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    PA 21.00.18 Action / Test behaves oddly for me on .PA files
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    Solved 17.00.90 Creating archive.pa with Optimise strong. file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same

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    • Brian GregoryB
      Brian Gregory Alpha Testers
      last edited by Brian Gregory

      When creating a .pa archive using optimise strong which contains various files types I noticed that file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same and should be treated identically.

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      • spwolfS
        spwolf conexware @Brian Gregory
        last edited by

        @Brian-Gregory said in 17.00.90 Creating archive.pa with Optimise strong. file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same:

        When creating a .pa archive using optimise strong which contains various files types I noticed that file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same and should be treated identically.

        cool - so what method is used for each? And which one gets better compression?

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          nikkho Alpha Testers @spwolf
          last edited by

          Until @Brian-Gregory answers, I did a quick test, and can confirm his point.

          For the same file, tar.gz is compressed, while tgz not.

          alt text

          @spwolf said in 17.00.90 Creating archive.pa with Optimise strong. file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same:

          @Brian-Gregory said in 17.00.90 Creating archive.pa with Optimise strong. file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same:

          When creating a .pa archive using optimise strong which contains various files types I noticed that file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same and should be treated identically.

          cool - so what method is used for each? And which one gets better compression?

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            nikkho Alpha Testers
            last edited by

            Sorry. Wrong image:
            alt text

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            • spwolfS
              spwolf conexware @nikkho
              last edited by spwolf

              @nikkho sweet, so whats the compression like for the one being reflated? try individual file compression with .tar.gz one. I wonder how it compares to original one. Is it extra 8% or?

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              • Brian GregoryB
                Brian Gregory Alpha Testers @spwolf
                last edited by Brian Gregory

                @spwolf said in 17.00.90 Creating archive.pa with Optimise strong. file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same:

                @nikkho sweet, so whats the compression like for the one being reflated? try individual file compression with .tar.gz one. I wonder how it compares to original one. Is it extra 8% or?

                It can be a huge improvement when there are a lot of them in a solid archive:
                0_1501594501054_PA TGZ 1.png

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                  nikkho Alpha Testers @spwolf
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                  @spwolf

                  Did a simple test. Files were from Volkov Commander: https://vvv.kiev.ua/download/vc49908a.zip
                  I extracted them, and compressed as a tar.gz in PA. Then I copied it to a same file with tgz extension.
                  Now, added both onto separate archives:

                  98.113 vc49908a.tar.gz.pa
                  100.103 vc49908a.tgz
                  100.103 vc49908a.tar.gz
                  100.685 vc49908a.tgz.pa
                  106.255 vc49908a.zip

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                  • Brian GregoryB
                    Brian Gregory Alpha Testers @spwolf
                    last edited by Brian Gregory

                    @spwolf .tar.gz is handled like a zip file which I think is correct because it gives good results. While .tgz is, I think, handled like an unknown file type.

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                      nikkho Alpha Testers @Brian Gregory
                      last edited by

                      @Brian-Gregory said in 17.00.90 Creating archive.pa with Optimise strong. file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same:

                      @spwolf .tar.gz is handled like a zip file which I think is correct because it gives good results. While .tgz is, I think, handled like an unknown file type.

                      Agree.

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                      • spwolfS
                        spwolf conexware @Brian Gregory
                        last edited by

                        @Brian-Gregory said in 17.00.90 Creating archive.pa with Optimise strong. file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same:

                        @spwolf .tar.gz is handled like a zip file which I think is correct because it gives good results. While .tgz is, I think, handled like an unknown file type.

                        yes, we use reflate for tar.gz and should be with tgz too… reflate “unpacks” deflate streams and compresses them with plzma instead of deflate… so result is always going to be better, how much is determined by the data inside. If it is something very compressible, then result is going to be much better.

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                        • Brian GregoryB
                          Brian Gregory Alpha Testers @spwolf
                          last edited by

                          @spwolf Why can’t I upload PNG images any more?

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                          • spwolfS
                            spwolf conexware @Brian Gregory
                            last edited by

                            @Brian-Gregory apparently some bug with this version of forums, try using upload button or paste (not sure which one are you trying)

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                            • Brian GregoryB
                              Brian Gregory Alpha Testers @spwolf
                              last edited by

                              @spwolf Paste how? I’m using the upload image button.

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                              • spwolfS
                                spwolf conexware @Brian Gregory
                                last edited by

                                @Brian-Gregory copy it first and then ctrl-p into the post you are writing… one of these works, sometimes both… discovered last week by pierrbe… there is new version out, we will update it in the next few days, likely it will solve the problem. Thanks!

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                                • Brian GregoryB
                                  Brian Gregory Alpha Testers @spwolf
                                  last edited by

                                  @spwolf I don’t see how ctrl-p is suddenly not gong to act as the print command.

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                                  • spwolfS
                                    spwolf conexware @Brian Gregory
                                    last edited by

                                    @Brian-Gregory obviously you are much more rested than me last night so you would use ctrl-v :)

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                                    • Brian GregoryB
                                      Brian Gregory Alpha Testers @spwolf
                                      last edited by Brian Gregory

                                      @spwolf But nothing happens with ctrl-v or right click paste. Does it have to be a certain kind of image in the clipboard? Or a certain web browser? I’m using Google Chrome.

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                                      • spwolfS
                                        spwolf conexware
                                        last edited by

                                        open it in image viewer, copy-c and then copy-v to the post reply…

                                        it should work in chrome right click> copy image but I use Snap for captures and it automatically opens up there so I cant really test it.

                                        I am sure @cetko will update forum software early next week so it should be fixed by then anyway.

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                                        • Brian GregoryB
                                          Brian Gregory Alpha Testers @spwolf
                                          last edited by

                                          @spwolf Nope. Doesn’t work.

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                                          • pirrbeP
                                            pirrbe Alpha Testers @Brian Gregory
                                            last edited by pirrbe

                                            @Brian-Gregory . Very frustrating : sometimes it works but then suddenly ‘not enough privileges’… I use the Edge Explorer Win10 and the standard Snipping Tool of Win10. (copy/past = ctrl-c / ctrl-v ctrl-p-printscreen !!?). I also tried to past first the snip in Word and then copy/past that image and other soft… but the problem is that communication third part soft.
                                            I hope that the new update will avoid a nervous breakdown.
                                            ![0_1501359211340_e42e5307-5f4e-4746-b02a-43c2b071a60b-image.png](Uploading 100%) Not enough privileges for this action…

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                                            • spwolfS
                                              spwolf conexware @Brian Gregory
                                              last edited by

                                              @brian-gregory said in 17.00.90 Creating archive.pa with Optimise strong. file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same:

                                              @spwolf Nope. Doesn’t work.

                                              try now, new forum update installed…

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                                              • Brian GregoryB
                                                Brian Gregory Alpha Testers @spwolf
                                                last edited by

                                                @spwolf said in 17.00.90 Creating archive.pa with Optimise strong. file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same:

                                                @brian-gregory said in 17.00.90 Creating archive.pa with Optimise strong. file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same:

                                                @spwolf Nope. Doesn’t work.

                                                try now, new forum update installed…

                                                It works.
                                                Thanks.

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                                                • spwolfS
                                                  spwolf conexware @Brian Gregory
                                                  last edited by

                                                  @brian-gregory said in 17.00.90 Creating archive.pa with Optimise strong. file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same:

                                                  @spwolf said in 17.00.90 Creating archive.pa with Optimise strong. file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same:

                                                  @brian-gregory said in 17.00.90 Creating archive.pa with Optimise strong. file.tar.gz and file.tgz are treated differently when they are in fact exactly the same:

                                                  @spwolf Nope. Doesn’t work.

                                                  try now, new forum update installed…

                                                  It works.
                                                  Thanks.

                                                  sweet!

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                                                  • Brian GregoryB
                                                    Brian Gregory Alpha Testers
                                                    last edited by

                                                    Problem in original post fixed in .91
                                                    Thank you.

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