Installer problem

[Keith Weisshar]

Does the PowerArchiver 2011 ToolBox Edition RC version include the standalone applications for Burner, FTP and Backup? How many RC will there be before the final version and how long is each RC?

[Keith Weisshar]

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[RJWaring]

I would say Its hard to tell the time between RC’s the Alpha versions have been going for months.

But aslong as people download and test this application, the more feedback we can obtain and the possibility of faster updates can be made towards the Final.

[drteeth]

I could not think of a more pointless bundle than with an anti-virus app. I choose my security apps very carefully as I do my compression utils, and it is not unknown for me to change my security app each year.

Much as I wish to support ConeXware, I shall not be upgrading :-(((.

DrT

[Luxor]

You don’t have to make use of the free BD, it’s not bundled with PA it’s a separate download if you want it.

I don’t have any need for it myself and that’s why I won’t be taking advantage of the download. But I still upgraded to the toolbox version.

[drteeth]

Why? I may have missed something. Is the toolbox version just pro + AV?

I do not mind paying for some extra functionality that I may use, but not for something I will never use.

I’ll wait for Spywolf’s email to see if it clarifies things a bit.

DrT

[spwolf]

@drteeth:

Why? I may have missed something. Is the toolbox version just pro + AV?

I do not mind paying for some extra functionality that I may use, but not for something I will never use.

I’ll wait for Spywolf’s email to see if it clarifies things a bit.

DrT

there is absolutely no need to upgrade if you do not want to :-)… we shuffled things around a bit for 2011 based on feedback from customers.

of course, there WILL be surprise for Toolbox peoples in the future :-).

[moles42]

Oh!..surprises…I love surprises…:D:D as long as they aren’t toooo far away…:)

[spwolf]

@moles42:

Oh!..surprises…I love surprises…:D:D as long as they aren’t toooo far away…:)

far away? well you know how that goes - how can it be a good surprise, if it is not a LOT of work? :-)

[moles42]

‘far away’ as in ‘Timeline’….but I’m sure it will be worth the wait…:)

[drteeth]

@spwolf:

there is absolutely no need to upgrade if you do not want to :-).<snip>

of course, there WILL be surprise for Toolbox peoples in the future :-).</snip>

I know I do not have to, but wonder if there is something other than an (unwanted) AV suite to tempt me.

When will the email that you mentioned detailing the offers be sent? Not yet received here.

Cheers

DrT

[Luxor]

@drteeth:

Why?

Because of this… :)
@spwolf:

and upcoming apps like our next standalone backup utility which will feature our PAF format. And you will be supporting PA development of course.

@drteeth:

When will the email that you mentioned detailing the offers be sent? Not yet received here.

We are all waiting for the mysterious email. I think spwolf may have confused himself there. ;)

[RJWaring]

I would advise anyone to take advantage of the discount for Toolbox and keep the serial for Bit Defender.

Or sell the BitDefender to a friend and get back what you paid for toolbox. :)

Looking forward to PAF and many new exiting features toolbox will support.

[Keith Weisshar]

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[spwolf]

@drteeth:

I know I do not have to, but wonder if there is something other than an (unwanted) AV suite to tempt me.

When will the email that you mentioned detailing the offers be sent? Not yet received here.

Cheers

DrT

there is nothing immediately available :-). We didnt want to force anyone who has Pro to buy Toolbox by limiting free upgrade options.

[TBGBe]

@Luxor:

We are all waiting for the mysterious email. I think spwolf may have confused himself there. ;)

No, not spwolf :p

Probably waiting for the “official release”.

[drteeth]

@spwolf:

there is nothing immediately available :-). We didnt want to force anyone who has Pro to buy Toolbox by limiting free upgrade options.

C’mon mate, tempt me with the upgrade deals for exisiting customers. I know I don’t HAVE to upgrade, but if the price is right…

and upcoming apps like our next standalone backup utility which will feature our PAF format. And you will be supporting PA development of course.

Marketing-wise, you may have stumbled. The market is full of free and paid for backup utils. I have two here (paid) myself and I suspect that anybody who wants/needs one will already be sorted out in that regard. Same goes for security suites.

So far, the only advantage (not knowing what is down the line) is the warm glow of supporting PA development…which is a good reason in itself. I have been known to donate to freeware authors, that is when they usually give up :cool:.

Looking forward to the email or PM ;).

DrT

[spwolf]

@drteeth:

C’mon mate, tempt me with the upgrade deals for exisiting customers. I know I don’t HAVE to upgrade, but if the price is right…

Marketing-wise, you may have stumbled. The market is full of free and paid for backup utils. I have two here (paid) myself and I suspect that anybody who wants/needs one will already be sorted out in that regard. Same goes for security suites.

So far, the only advantage (not knowing what is down the line) is the warm glow of supporting PA development…which is a good reason in itself. I have been known to donate to freeware authors, that is when they usually give up :cool:.

Looking forward to the email or PM ;).

DrT

market is full of everything, if we went by that, then you would never see another new product :-).

we will try to make best backup utility on the market, since we will build new format for it, and not just use off the shelf libraries that everyone does and are not really meant for the backup.

If we can build new backup that is 30% more efficient (faster, less space taken, less bandwidth taken), I am sure it will be quite nice :-).

[RJWaring]

Spwolf, Make sure that specifically designed backup tool is for Toolbox users ;)

Pro could have something less comprehensive. But usefull non the less.

Looking forward to the 2012 edition of PA

[drteeth]

For your backup util, PLEASE let it restore to existing partitions and not create its own. Why?

I use a partitioning utility that allows for >200 primary partitions per disk. If one uses it outside the standard 4 partitions per disk (4 primaries or 3+extended) no other util/OS etc must be allowed to create partitions.

As regards the marketing comment, there is no point re-inventing the wheel, one must create a better one.

Upgrade prices pretty please.

Cheers

DrT

[spwolf]

@drteeth:

For your backup util, PLEASE let it restore to existing partitions and not create its own. Why?

I use a partitioning utility that allows for >200 primary partitions per disk. If one uses it outside the standard 4 partitions per disk (4 primaries or 3+extended) no other util/OS etc must be allowed to create partitions.

As regards the marketing comment, there is no point re-inventing the wheel, one must create a better one.

Upgrade prices pretty please.

Cheers

DrT

i believe it will not be full disc image backup utility (at least not to start) but smart differential continuous backup utility that saves only byte level changes and not full files… we can have big improvements there compared to what exists on the market right now (with our own compression format/engine and byte level differentials like in Patchbeam).

[spwolf]

@Sir:

Spwolf, Make sure that specifically designed backup tool is for Toolbox users ;)

Pro could have something less comprehensive. But usefull non the less.

Looking forward to the 2012 edition of PA

well this will be full product done with care and patience that we do PowerArchiver with :-)

[drteeth]

@spwolf:

well this will be full product done with care and patience that we do PowerArchiver with :-)

When will upgrade offers for existing customers be available? Will ‘the e-mail’ be sent soon?

DrT

[spwolf]

@drteeth:

When will upgrade offers for existing customers be available? Will ‘the e-mail’ be sent soon?

DrT

if you login to the account, they are already there… we are still getting feedback on everything before we send emails (since most people dont realize that PA 2011 is out at all).

[RJWaring]

Nice Response Spwolf, nice response ;)